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2019.12.18 00:12 ProGamingGuy123 CultOfGlitchTrap

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2014.09.23 01:30 TerkRockerfeller I'M NOT READY FOR FREDDY (THIS IS A MEME SUBREDDIT)

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2023.03.24 02:47 reasonablefeet I read GGY and I have some notes and questions

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2023.03.23 10:01 XanderKaze Part 3 of my timeline

Part 3
Micheal continued his walk home and had quit the job he was at because he has another job, finding his father. After 28 years, Micheal had still not found his father and a new Horror Attraction was coming to Utah. Micheal, seeing this as a way to get some money to get his organs back at the Hospital applied for the job as a nightshift. The creator of Fazbears Fright, Phone Dude had thought that Micheal was wearing a costume and made him the nightguard for the attraction during the day. On Micheal’s first night of the job, nothing happened strangely. However on Micheal’s second night, Phone Dude had said he found some springlock tapes from Phone Guy and a real animatronic. Little did Phone Guy know he had sent hell to Fazbears Fright because he found Springtrap inside of the old Freddy Fazbears Pizza that closed in 1993 and who was inside of Springtrap? William Afton. Micheal had saw the animatronic walking and thanks to the Audio Lure that Phone Dude gave to Micheal and the cameras, Micheal was able to get Springtrap away from Micheal’s office with Balloon Boys laugh which Springtrap thought it was a child. However, Springtrap had friends because 6 phantoms had also came on the second night. Phantom Balloon Boy, Phantom Puppet, Phantom Mangle, Phantom Freddy, Phantom Foxy and Phantom Chica were the 6 hallucinations going for Micheal. Micheal kept on dealing with this but by the time Night 6 had rolled around, Micheal had saw his Fathers corpse inside of Springtrap so by the time 6 AM had rolled around… Micheal had set fire to Fazbears Fright. Micheal was outside of the building when setting Fire to the place and ran away to his house. Micheal had nothing else to do now but stay in his house. 2024 has finally rolled around and Henry made Freddy Fazbears Pizza Place which was a completely different name then the other locations and Henry was looking for a manager. Micheal saw this place directly outside his house and applied for the manager position. The place was booming with business, including the animatronics that wouldn’t move around in the night, but it did attract some animatronics. On the first night, Molten Freddy had came to the pizzeria, he was salvaged and then put into the labyrinth. The second night, Scraptrap had came, William Afton had returned. Scraptrap was salvaged and put into the labyrinth. On the Third night, Scrap Baby had came. Your probably wondering why. Well the reason is that while in the sewer, the soul of Funtime Freddy and Elizabeth had a fight inside of Ennard, Elizabeth was ejected and she had rebuilt herself from the parts in the scooping room even making her claw her hand. Ennard ended up finding a sister location made by Henry called Chicas Party World and had burned Yenndo with Bonnet as a hand puppet. Ennard then took the Mask of Yenndo and was Molten Freddy. But anyways Scrap Baby was salvaged and put into the labyrinth. While this was happening, Henry had made Lefty to capture the Puppet, Lefty had successfully succeeded but they the Puppet had revealed the puppet was Charlotte. Henry, instead of selling Lefty for 5 dollars had decided to throw Lefty where the other scrapped animatronics were found… in the back alley. On the fourth night Micheal had found Lefty and did what he did with the others, salvaged Lefty and put her in the Labyrinth. While Micheal was in the labyrinth which was on a Saturday Micheal was using an Audio Lure to keep the scrapped animatronics from coming in the office at the end of the night, Scrap Baby made it clear that this was a gift for all of the scrapped animatronics. Henry interrupted Scrap Baby saying this wasn’t a gift and they were called for something. Henry was hidden in a office that no one but him can get to which was an air duct, he was near by. Henry had set the whole pizza place on fire and Micheal had rushed out of the building before it burned him yet he did cough up his Remnant and fell on it and revived himself once again. William Afton was stuck in the Labyrinth because the doors had closed. William Afton had burned in the pizzeria and finally died. When William had Died, he was expecting to revive but, no. He looked around and saw an endless black void. He blinked twice and he was now infront of a giant select screen. He was infront of every single animatronic that Him and Henry had invented. There were 50 characters in total and without reading a single thing of what the animatronics do and like the maniac he is, William had set all Animatronics to there highest difficulty, 20. Williams first death was to the Freddy Fazbear from 1993. Then Mangle from 1987. Then Springtrap from 2023. Then Jack-O-Chica from 1983. Then Ennard from 1995. Then Scrap Baby from 2024. No matter how many times William had tried, he had died over and over and over again yet he still got back to the point he was at. After 20,000 deaths William had decided to read and study every single animatronic. He was mastering it until Dee Dee, the unused friend for Balloon Boy had showed up. Dee Dee made it more difficult by adding more animatronics. Her alternative version, XOR or Shadow Dee Dee had added all characters at once. This made it difficult. After dying to Nightmare Chica, William had looked at the death count, 1,000,000,000 times. He had died a billion times. But this time, he knew what to do with every single character including the extra characters. He was not going to die another billion times because 1 Billion was enough. He was fighting with so much chaos and even finding cheats by keeping the camera on camera 2 to make it so that Circus Baby, Nightmare Mangle and Nightmare Bonnie don’t attack William for not having any plushies. This was going for 6 hours and after 6 hours….. William had completed his personal hell. Cassidy, the creator of the personal hell being The One You Shouldn’t Have Killed was screaming in agony and anger because William is free from his hell. That is when Old Man Consequences came and sat next to Cassidy and eventually took Cassidy into Old Man Consequences island. Cassidy came over to Old Man Consequences and sat next to him saying “Leave the demons to his demons, rest your own soul there is nothing else” basically telling Cassidy to quit making Afton Suffer. Cassidy refused and jumped down the lake to make Afton suffer more. It was the year 2030 by the time William Afton had escaped his hell and he was in a VR game about the tragedy’s of Fazbear Entertainment and people were just testing it out. William Afton as Glitchtrap was walking around when he saw a Beta Tester by the name of Vanny, Glitchtrap had lured Vanny towards him and Vanny thought this was a part of the game. Vanny got close to Glitchtrap and then Glitchtrap put his hand on the VR headset that he saw on the play and Vanny had fallen under the control of Glitchtrap. William Afton, finding his new and found power had decided to go on a glitching spree. That day more then 1,000 Beta Testers had fallen under the control of William Afton. William Afton had told Vanny to make a suit, a bunny suit to be infact and she did just that. William Afton was still trapped but that all changed because Vanny got William out of the VR World and into the real world. When William Afton had gotten back into the real world he had been found in a secret office inside of Freddy Fazbears Pizza Place which was under the ground.
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2023.03.23 02:55 sylveonemeraldz Presenting the worst idea ive ever had: Molly McGee and scratch (…) VS Vanny and Glitchtrap (FNAF)

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2023.03.23 00:55 Grunt_god What is one item from every fnaf game you want in real life?

Fnaf 1: cupcake Fnaf 2: Freddy mask Fnaf 3: chica head Fnaf 4: any toy in the room Fnaf 5: hand unit or tv with lolbit Fnaf 6: helpy (I consider him small enough to be an item) Fnaf ucn: DD, same as helpy Fnaf HW: glitchtrap plush Fnaf SD: shocker Fnaf SB: faz cam
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2023.03.22 23:58 Autective Clueless (ft. Glitchtrap, Vanny and my original character Kiki)

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2023.03.22 22:39 Daka_D3monboy The Glitch Twins Rate your Glitchtraps! (Pictures Only)

The Glitch Twins Rate your Glitchtraps! (Pictures Only)
This is my AU 1, the first ever Gacha AU I ever made. Back then Mustard Man and Purple Guy were two drifrent personalities in one body and after Glitchtrap they separated cause I dunno I made this when I was like 11 and I thought it was cool. But I think irs funny so- enjoy! ^
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2023.03.22 21:42 TraditionMedical2514 My theory about William Afton's age

Given the information about him and Henry in the novels, his physical description, his children's ages at the time, as well as PJ Heywood's role on voices.com, he should be born between 1939-1951; likely in the 1940's, which puts him at anywhere from mid 30's to mid 40's when he kills the five missing children, and in his 70's or 80's in FNAF 3; 40's to 55 when he got springlocked.
Personally, I assume he was born around early 1945, which puts him in his 30's, good fit for a fresh businessman, engineer and family man- when he starts building animatronics. 25 and married when he has his oldest son Michael, then around 35-36 when Elizabeth is born (If she's 6-7 when she dies).
FNAF 4 (1983): 38 years-old, then first murder
MCI, Fazbear's 1st closing (1985): age 40
Circus Baby's Pizza world/creation of Funtimes (1986-87 ?): 41-42 years-old
FNAF 2, 2nd series of murders, Sister Location (1987): age 42
FNAF 1 (1993): age 48
Closing of the last pizzeria, gets springlocked (1993-1994): age 49 (officially dead)
10 year anniversary (2003): age 58
FNAF 3 (2023): age 78-79
FNAF 6 (2025 ?): age 81
FNAF UCN: 81+ (actually dead)
FNAF VR: Help Wanted, Glitchtrap (2031 ?) : age 86-87
FNAF Security Breach, Burntrap (2033?): age 88-89 (Revived)
He's a really old man, lol. So guys, what are your opinions?
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2023.03.22 03:02 Ok-Rip4038 What if Cassidy let go Afton?

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2023.03.21 19:41 Buttbutt741 Some GlitchTrap based questions (not a theorist really just some thoughts)

So this is potentially just loose ends and I must admit I’m not much of a heavy theorist myself but I haven’t seen anything about it so I wanted to post just for thoughts.
Has the notion that RWQFSFASXC/Shadow Bonnie might be an early GlitchTrap been explored? Just going off the coincidental observations that obviously both are bunnies, the name “RWQFSFASXC” has total glitch vibes and when GlitchTrap is first revealed in VR there’s a fairly shared resemblance. Could this potentially suggest an origin for GlitchTrap? It mentions in the tapes that the glitch is found on scrapped hardware potentially a reference to the early scrapping of fnaf world as we know Scott is mentioned in VR in the intro. Could the scrapping of fnaf world be seen as in universe cannon where it’s eventually repurposed for assets in VR?
I don’t know if any of this really has any major implications to any larger theories but just some things what I thought about. Part of me also wants to question whether the nightmare puppet is actually a kind of glitch version of the puppet sort of tailing the Afton glitch but I have 0 evidence to back up that claim other than the glitchy sound waves played on the associated jumpscares and the weird presence of nightmare puppet in security breach’s staffbots. Like maybe it won’t control people as happens with Vanny but branches out through animatronics?
Idk, food for thought I guess 👍
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2023.03.21 11:59 David12022 Fuhnaff got something wrong in his GGY theory

Fuhnaff got something wrong in his GGY theory
Fuhnaff claims that GGY got possessed by Glitchtrap because of the Balloon Boy World arcade but the arcade screen says that GGY didn't play it
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2023.03.21 06:08 ImTheCreator2 The Storyteller might solve a mystery from FNaF Help Wanted

Ok, I'm sure I'm not the only one who has thought about this, but I'm sure I haven't seen people discuss it.
Well uh... so, for a brief recap: In the story of The Storyteller we get to see how Fazbear Entertainment purposefully slipped up a tiger head that used to belong to an animatronic tied to the protagonists backstory and the Mimic itself and all of that, using it's code to likely cheapen the process of what they are doing (this story is at the end of the day a jab on Artificial Intelligence being used as a replacement for real people).
Ok, so what is so interesting about all of this? Is actually the fact that they wanted to keep as a secret what exactly were they using for this technology: the tiger head; this was clearly because they didn't want Edwin to know about it, so they didn't allow him (and others too) to know more than surface level stuff. And this is particularly what makes me want to point this out, because something similar seems to have happened in Help Wanted, now if you remember it is made as a point that Fazbear Entertainment decided to give old stuff to the developing team to speed up the work by scanning it, this clearly being what caused the game to get infected in the first place, this also comes alongside the fact that all of this will eventually get stolen by some unknown individual, yet later down the line Fazbear itself will then give the Funtime Service, some old stuff for them to scan which will also cause the system to get infected.
Now I think it is obvious what I'm trying to get with this, while this was heavily debated and is still I don't think Fazbear Entertainment was actively trying to bring back Afton as much as they just wanted to use this technology without Edwin noticing. It also may explain why was the Mimic endo send to the Pizzaplex at the beginning of the first epilogue, remember the construction team took it for themselves to work with but it wasn't meant to, since it was sent alongside the other animatronics, might be just a wild assumption but considering everything? I think is likely he was meant to be Glamrock Bonnie, Fazbear was going to use it to be cheap like they always do but shenanigans happened, maybe this is why we haven't seen Glamrock Bonnie in year one Pizzaplex, but that part is just speculation, so who knows.
So yeah, in conclusion (TLDR): I doubt Fazbear Entertainment is actively working with Afton or that there is a third party moving the pieces, at least not when it comes to everything Mimic/Glitchtrap stuff, is just Fazbear Entertainment trying to get the most use out of the technology they have at the moment, being why they will go to use both the Mimic1 AI and the endoskeleton.
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2023.03.21 01:40 Espsiongold2VA This security breach ending is absurd yet possibly cannon, let's talk about it all from ending to reason

Before you read, I'm going to be saying cannon alot, however it's not the cannon you may think it is. Once Scott select's the true ending then that is the canonical to the future of fnaf going forward, so if the afton ending is the true one then Gregory will remember that going forward, if princess quest is the true one then Gregory never saw Afton and we go forward from there yes I'm aware of GGY
No, my version of cannon is if the characters are acting cannonicaly to their in game behaviour within specifically different endings.
I know that the only two possible cannon endings are either princess quest or the afton ending.
But some ending are too close to be fake endings.
As an example look at the princess quest ending. Freddy gets ripped appart and Gregory runs and stumbles upon the third princess quest game.
But here's the thing, that's not what Freddy tells you to do, even if you go for the princess quest ending Freddy outright says "get the device, turn them against vanny" and considering the only other ending you can get in that location at that moment is the dissssemble vanny ending, then Freddy's telling you to get that ending.
See that's not a strange ending compared to say collecting all the security passes and then Gregory driving a van
Gregory doesn't even know princess quest would free Vanessa and he is being chased by vanny and Freddy's already told you to turn the robots against vanny. With Gregory not knowing that princess quest can free Vanessa, him stopping to play the game while getting hunted and Freddy getting destroyed without any knowledge what playing the game would do is more unlikely than the dissssemble vanny ending
My point is some endings are obviously red herrings and intentionally silly. And clearly not cannon. But by that very logic princess quest 3 is the most absurd because with no motivation or knowledge of princess quest freeing Vanessa while being chased by vanny who is close and after Freddy tells you to turn the robots against vanny while freddy is being torn apart, with no plan between Gregory and Freddy to free Vanessa, he litteraly just decides to play a video game.
So even if princess quest is cannon, so is Freddy telling Gregory to destroy vanny.
Ps. I've read the books and ggy but it doesn't explain these two endings....well perhaps one of them.
Do you guys think endings we get are cannon to the event leading up to it? What I mean is do you believe if Gregory left the pizzaplex in that ending vanny would have followed him, because it's through that ending we find out about people who have disappeared.
I'm not sure if it's real Vs fake endings or real alternative endings.
It's like Mike in sister location and the choice between the scooping room and the private room. The private room isn't in the timeline of mike so he knows nothing about what is behind the door, we as the player can and found alot of lore that Mike would never know about as he didn't enter. But he still could have entered, it is a choice and shows what ennard would try to do to get Mike if he did enter the private room, and ennard using Elizabeth's voice to get him to open the door is very believable behaviour.
But compare that with Gregory being chased by vanny as Freddy is being torn apart, heading to turn the robots against vanny just as Freddy told him, only for him to decide he would rather play princess quest 3, sure vannys nearly got him and freddy is looking worse than mangle but it's a video game and despite having no idea what it would do, plays it anyway.
Then suddenly vanny who was a few seconds from catching you is free from glitchtrap and Freddy who is just a pile of springs now in the ending had a fully undamaged head in Gregory's bag, even though the disassemble vanny ending would have been shorter and freddys face is shattered
And despite the massive logical illogical leaps of absurdity and suspension of disbelief required to even process him playing princess quest 3 in a moment he is in the worst danger and freddy screaming in the background.we just have to believe that, and still call it a cannon ending, you may say that it's due to cut content and perhaps there was supposed to be a plan between Gregory and Freddy to find the arcades and free Vanessa but canonically Freddy tells you "Gregory I still have a signal, turn the robots against vanny"
It's not that I think princess quest 3 is not cannon, it's rather how and when and without knowing the why that you play princess quest 3 that makes it feel non cannon. Imagine your in a house that's on fire and your friend got injured tells you to stop the arsonist and the very person that caused the fire is running after you but you look behind you and realise theirs a Nintendo switch so you sit in the fire playing some super Mario, which on completion the arsonist is now fine, your friends fine and the fire, well who knows.
I get that we the player of the game were supposed to put together that you need to play all three princess quest arcade machines to get an alternative ending. But as I said the fact this feels more like a player lore dive rather than it having any effect or motivation for the game. Freddy was upset about a Mr hippo magnet, has a panic attack when he sees other endings. Yet there's absolutely no reaction or discussion about playing princess quest 3 and how it may help. It makes Gregory playing it in that moment the worst ending, again not because it's not cannon, just at the time he decided to play it.
Anyway back to my point. There's a few endings I believe are fake as in not an accurate representation of what would have happened had that actually been the cannon ending. The VIP ending is a good example because freddy won't let you drive without a helmet but in this ending he lets Gregory drive a van that smashed through a billboard... obviously not cannon as it goes against Freddy's personally completely. I don't believe it to be in any way an accurate representation of what would have happened during the ending.
The next one is the rooftop ending. Collect the plushies and absolutely out of nowhere and with no warning freddy just sets the place on fire, after saying he would never hurt his friends and not under the control of glitchtrap as that occurs during the afton ending, he burns the place and then jumps off the building after saying "I can see you, I have new eyes" And then Freddy dies and there's who vannys...wait Freddy dies, Montgomery gator got cut in half and survived, Roxanne headbutted a car and chica was turned into a cube yet they are still chasing you, but Freddy takes fall damage and dies even though he is a robot...that nonsense behaviour makes me again feel that this isn't an accurate representation of what would have happened had that ending been cannon. Rather than set the place on fire Freddy keeping in character could go to the roof with gregory and restrain vanny so Gregory could remove her mask, that would have been a believable ending and the post cut scene end credit could have shown another vanny in the background watching.
The bad ending with gregory fleeing from the pizzaplex and being found by vanny I feel could be a more cannon alternative ending as I believe this is an accurate representation of what vanny would do had Gregory escaped.
So my idea is based on that. And one last thing, please don't tell me tales of the pizzaplex explains everything, because yes although it has massive lore reveals, you shouldn't have to read 20 books to have any idea what is going on, it doesn't feel like the survival logbook, steel wool did an amazing job for fans while creating a game for children.
That's my biggest gripe. You need to be a top class fnaf fnaf around since the first game who theorised for years and played every game and read book after book after book and played VR and know about fnaf AR emails to have any idea of making a guess towards the proper ending. But then the game is made for kids who won't feel nostalgia for the 80s and won't have a clue why playing an arcade game in a game was an ending.
I can't see this as lore selling by Scott himself though, I do get the vibe tales of the pizzaplex is the closest we will get to a mature version of security breach, and perhaps that was the plan, kid friendly game more mature horror theme books, but if they were worried about kids playing a more mature version of security breach, well then making it kid friendly and only solvable via the more mature books was definitely not the way to go about doing it.
Can anyone honestly tell me that vanny is a threatening character in game, did anyone enjoy the 4 second fight with afton.
And even after all the tales from the pizzaplex stories and playing security breach, it still makes no sense why Gregory would play princess quest 3 in that moment.
I guess you could read the security breach guide if your fluent in wingdings, but please just tell me the logic you have for Gregory to play princess quest 3 while being chased and Freddy attacked.
Do you think all endings are cannon (to the characteristics established within the game), do you believe them alternative endings that absolutely would have occurred as shown, had Gregory did whatever caused that ending. What do you all think?
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2023.03.21 01:38 Espsiongold2VA This Security breach ending is absurd yet cannon? Let's talk about it all

Before you read, I'm going to be saying cannon alot, however it's not the cannon you may think it is. Once Scott select's the true ending then that is the canonical to the future of fnaf going forward, so if the afton ending is the true one then Gregory will remember that going forward, if princess quest is the true one then Gregory never saw Afton and we go forward from there yes I'm aware of GGY
No, my version of cannon is if the characters are acting cannonicaly to their in game behaviour within specifically different endings.
I know that the only two possible cannon endings are either princess quest or the afton ending.
But some ending are too close to be fake endings.
As an example look at the princess quest ending. Freddy gets ripped appart and Gregory runs and stumbles upon the third princess quest game.
But here's the thing, that's not what Freddy tells you to do, even if you go for the princess quest ending Freddy outright says "get the device, turn them against vanny" and considering the only other ending you can get in that location at that moment is the dissssemble vanny ending, then Freddy's telling you to get that ending.
See that's not a strange ending compared to say collecting all the security passes and then Gregory driving a van
Gregory doesn't even know princess quest would free Vanessa and he is being chased by vanny and Freddy's already told you to turn the robots against vanny. With Gregory not knowing that princess quest can free Vanessa, him stopping to play the game while getting hunted and Freddy getting destroyed without any knowledge what playing the game would do is more unlikely than the dissssemble vanny ending
My point is some endings are obviously red herrings and intentionally silly. And clearly not cannon. But by that very logic princess quest 3 is the most absurd because with no motivation or knowledge of princess quest freeing Vanessa while being chased by vanny who is close and after Freddy tells you to turn the robots against vanny while freddy is being torn apart, with no plan between Gregory and Freddy to free Vanessa, he litteraly just decides to play a video game.
So even if princess quest is cannon, so is Freddy telling Gregory to destroy vanny.
Ps. I've read the books and ggy but it doesn't explain these two endings....well perhaps one of them.
Do you guys think endings we get are cannon to the event leading up to it? What I mean is do you believe if Gregory left the pizzaplex in that ending vanny would have followed him, because it's through that ending we find out about people who have disappeared.
I'm not sure if it's real Vs fake endings or real alternative endings.
It's like Mike in sister location and the choice between the scooping room and the private room. The private room isn't in the timeline of mike so he knows nothing about what is behind the door, we as the player can and found alot of lore that Mike would never know about as he didn't enter. But he still could have entered, it is a choice and shows what ennard would try to do to get Mike if he did enter the private room, and ennard using Elizabeth's voice to get him to open the door is very believable behaviour.
But compare that with Gregory being chased by vanny as Freddy is being torn apart, heading to turn the robots against vanny just as Freddy told him, only for him to decide he would rather play princess quest 3, sure vannys nearly got him and freddy is looking worse than mangle but it's a video game and despite having no idea what it would do, plays it anyway.
Then suddenly vanny who was a few seconds from catching you is free from glitchtrap and Freddy who is just a pile of springs now in the ending had a fully undamaged head in Gregory's bag, even though the disassemble vanny ending would have been shorter and freddys face is shattered
And despite the massive logical illogical leaps of absurdity and suspension of disbelief required to even process him playing princess quest 3 in a moment he is in the worst danger and freddy screaming in the background.we just have to believe that, and still call it a cannon ending, you may say that it's due to cut content and perhaps there was supposed to be a plan between Gregory and Freddy to find the arcades and free Vanessa but canonically Freddy tells you "Gregory I still have a signal, turn the robots against vanny"
It's not that I think princess quest 3 is not cannon, it's rather how and when and without knowing the why that you play princess quest 3 that makes it feel non cannon. Imagine your in a house that's on fire and your friend got injured tells you to stop the arsonist and the very person that caused the fire is running after you but you look behind you and realise theirs a Nintendo switch so you sit in the fire playing some super Mario, which on completion the arsonist is now fine, your friends fine and the fire, well who knows.
I get that we the player of the game were supposed to put together that you need to play all three princess quest arcade machines to get an alternative ending. But as I said the fact this feels more like a player lore dive rather than it having any effect or motivation for the game. Freddy was upset about a Mr hippo magnet, has a panic attack when he sees other endings. Yet there's absolutely no reaction or discussion about playing princess quest 3 and how it may help. It makes Gregory playing it in that moment the worst ending, again not because it's not cannon, just at the time he decided to play it.
Anyway back to my point. There's a few endings I believe are fake as in not an accurate representation of what would have happened had that actually been the cannon ending. The VIP ending is a good example because freddy won't let you drive without a helmet but in this ending he lets Gregory drive a van that smashed through a billboard... obviously not cannon as it goes against Freddy's personally completely. I don't believe it to be in any way an accurate representation of what would have happened during the ending.
The next one is the rooftop ending. Collect the plushies and absolutely out of nowhere and with no warning freddy just sets the place on fire, after saying he would never hurt his friends and not under the control of glitchtrap as that occurs during the afton ending, he burns the place and then jumps off the building after saying "I can see you, I have new eyes" And then Freddy dies and there's who vannys...wait Freddy dies, Montgomery gator got cut in half and survived, Roxanne headbutted a car and chica was turned into a cube yet they are still chasing you, but Freddy takes fall damage and dies even though he is a robot...that nonsense behaviour makes me again feel that this isn't an accurate representation of what would have happened had that ending been cannon. Rather than set the place on fire Freddy keeping in character could go to the roof with gregory and restrain vanny so Gregory could remove her mask, that would have been a believable ending and the post cut scene end credit could have shown another vanny in the background watching.
The bad ending with gregory fleeing from the pizzaplex and being found by vanny I feel could be a more cannon alternative ending as I believe this is an accurate representation of what vanny would do had Gregory escaped.
So my idea is based on that. And one last thing, please don't tell me tales of the pizzaplex explains everything, because yes although it has massive lore reveals, you shouldn't have to read 20 books to have any idea what is going on, it doesn't feel like the survival logbook, steel wool did an amazing job for fans while creating a game for children.
That's my biggest gripe. You need to be a top class fnaf fnaf around since the first game who theorised for years and played every game and read book after book after book and played VR and know about fnaf AR emails to have any idea of making a guess towards the proper ending. But then the game is made for kids who won't feel nostalgia for the 80s and won't have a clue why playing an arcade game in a game was an ending.
I can't see this as lore selling by Scott himself though, I do get the vibe tales of the pizzaplex is the closest we will get to a mature version of security breach, and perhaps that was the plan, kid friendly game more mature horror theme books, but if they were worried about kids playing a more mature version of security breach, well then making it kid friendly and only solvable via the more mature books was definitely not the way to go about doing it.
Can anyone honestly tell me that vanny is a threatening character in game, did anyone enjoy the 4 second fight with afton.
And even after all the tales from the pizzaplex stories and playing security breach, it still makes no sense why Gregory would play princess quest 3 in that moment.
I guess you could read the security breach guide if your fluent in wingdings, but please just tell me the logic you have for Gregory to play princess quest 3 while being chased and Freddy attacked.
Do you think all endings are cannon (to the characteristics established within the game), do you believe them alternative endings that absolutely would have occurred as shown, had Gregory did whatever caused that ending. What do you all think?
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2023.03.21 01:16 ULZER_Official FNAF Movie Prediction

Today I'm here to share a Personal Theory that I think Might just be true and even better it's a FNAF Theory!!. In the new movie leaks we get to see a Work in Progress Springtrap Head which tons of people have been confused as too how Springtrap would appear in this first movie considering that this Movie Would most likely tell the Story of FNAF one But I'm here to Tell you that the Movie Is gonna Take place during FNAF 6 And that the First Movie Will Most likely Be Micheal Afton's Flashbacks . One of the Props for the Movie is the Sign that's Hung on the Filming Location and Even though People Expected it to have the same name as the FNAF 1 Location It actually had the Name "Freddy Fazbear's pizza place" which if you don't know was the name of the FNAF 6 Location which was meant to burn everything down and "end" the series. Also for those who don't know there are actually 3 FNAF movies planned as confirmed by the Actor Playing William Afton. So here's how I think these movies might go and Please keep in Mind that this is just a Theory.
Movie 1: the movie will start right before Micheal afton burns down the FNAF 3 Location where he then has a flashback to when he Worked at the FNAF 1 Location and this sets in motion the Rest of the Movie Until The Very End where we cut back and see Fazbear Frights Burn Down with Springtrap Inside and Just Like that the Movie Ends And the Final Voice Line Where we will hear in the Post Credits is Scraptrap Saying "I always Come Back" in the shadows where the screen Fades to black and the Movie Ends
Movie 2: this Movie will likely be a Reimagining of The Events Of FNAF 6 Where Henry Lured all the Animatronics to Burn them To the ground and This is where Afton would remain as well as where he would get his soul in a circuit board or a Computer chip to Form Glitchtrap
Movie 3: this movie could Take Place either in Help Wanted or Something Resembling Security Breach. This Movie will also be the reappearance of Vanessa who is confirmed to appear in the First Movie which is why this movie must be Help wanted or Security Breach
One more thing I want to Mention is the Casting of someone to play a female villain Now this I think Might just be another form of vanny since she is the only female villain in the Franchise and perhaps this Casting Is for someone to Play an Alternate Version of Vanny or maybe even Command Vanny
Let me know if this is a good Theory or if It's ridiculous even for a FNAF Theory
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2023.03.20 21:46 mrafekaj Why Cassidy is (probably) not the Vengeful spirit ... (theory)

EDIT: Video version has been completed! https://youtu.be/6U_ejcdu-ZM

Hello everyone! I'm here again to present on of my theories for feedback. This time it's about the growing discussion that Cassidy is NOT the Vengeful spirit after all!
Lemme know what you think in the comments!

(also, this is a video script, so forgive me if there are in-text notes placed in the following)

But… As much as I love that theory… over the last couple of years, there have been some major problems popping up around it…
Because- it looks like we have been neglecting the possible existence of an even better candidate for the vengeful spirit, Andrew.

In the aforementioned Stitchwraith stories, we are introduced to a kid named Andrew, who’se the vengeful and angry spirit inside of the stitchwraith, and while he’s long been considered to be a simple stand in for cassidy in the books, there are some major details in the books and games that make that are making me question that assumption

Because you see, Andrew is a perfect parallel to the vengeful spirit, unlike almost every other parallel in the books which have at least SOME major differences from the games. In terms of parallels, Andrew arguably is more up there with William and Henry than the other “close parallels” in the books like Hudson in What we found(Micheal Afton) and Jake in the real Jake (The Crying Child)
Because, we know Andrew is killed by William and hidden in a Golden Freddy suit in the books, while Cassidy is only directly referenced in the logbook, and was INFERRED to be in Golden Freddy with the crying child, based on the evidence we mentioned earlier.
Andrew is the one who latches on to William Afton’s soul during the fnaf 6 fire in fazbear frights, yes, THAT fnaf 6 fire, and keeps Afton alive in a perpetual state of nightmares as revenge.
Andrew is also a young BOY with curly black hair, long enough to stick out of Golden freddy’s neck while he is stuffed inside (show fnaf 4 minigame scene with big question mark on it) and not only that, but the vengeful spirit in UCN is referred to with exclusively male pronounce in the game: (show UCN quotes)

And it’s appearance? Well, the Vengeful Spirit is represented by none other than Scott’s SON.

But it doesn’t end there, because in the aforementioned fnaf novel trilogy, which is yet another separate canon from the fazbear frights books, Golden Freddy is NOT cassidy, in that book series, the series, which I mind you, is Cassidy's formal INTRODUCTION to the fnaf franchise, she is just another one of the Missing children's incident kids. Instead, Golden Freddy is possessed by an oddly unrelated young boy named Michael Brooks. In those books, Michael brooks was a sixth kid who was killed separately from the rest in 1985 by Willaim Afton, and his body hidden in Golden Freddy.

And while these books may be an alternate universe take, they still have some major similarities to the games, especially in regards to the characters, with almost all game characters having similar book counterparts, and said counterparts are usually in the books for the sole purpose of telling us new information about the versions of their charecters in the games (show William, Henry and Charlie)
But, what about that part about him being a sixth missing kid? In the games AND most of the book stories, the Missing Children's incident is very clearly stated to only have FIVE victims, but, key word here is on MOST, because in perhaps most famous book story, Into the pit, we get taken back in time to a weird twisted version of the 1985 location, and the story has William show us his accomplishments of that Era: which compose of not five, but SIX dead kids, all on display for us the protagonist to see

But wait, how can we reconcile SIX dead kids with all the other lore sources we know? And, why should we trust a book with a time traveling ballpit in it anyways?

Well, I think I have found the answer to both of those questions, and the answer comes from none other, than matpat

In his second episode of his Ultimate fnaf timeline, Matpat is finally able to piece together exactly what the toy Chica anime cutscenes in UCN were supposed to tell us. Because while it has been generally agreed upon that the cutscenes are about William rather creepily stalking and killing his victims, we.. really didn't learn anything new from it at the time.

But in his theory, Matpat proposes that the Toy Chica anime cutscenes are there to give some more context on why the Vengeful spirit, is so vengeful.

Because for Toy Chica’s last Murder, she… goes a bit off the rails, compared to her previous killings..
(show UCN quote)
So basically, the Toy Chica anime cutscenes in UCN being there to tell us that the vengeful spirit's death was extra gruesome and excessive, with Willaim going too far in his brutality. And while I genuinely believe Mat is correct here, even then, his theory would fit Andrew just as well as Cassidy.

That’s because, like he said, the Vengeful spirit WASN’T killed in Freddy’s! He was kidnapped and killed after school!

The vengeful spirits body was hidden in the Golden Freddy suit AFTERWARDS, but, while he WAS an afton victim he was NOT an MCI kid!
Most people don’t realize, but Into the pit isn’t actually about a time traveling ballpit, it’s about Eleanor tormenting a kid with illusions and showing him the evils of William afton. This is a theme that actually constitutes the bulk of the Fazbear frights stories, with the remnent/dream demon thing Eleanor screwing with peoples reality to torment them while showing them (and us) many of the unknown history of the Fazbear franchise before trying to lead them to a usually gruesome end.
That’s why there are SIX bodies in that story, because Ealanor is showing all the bodies that were HIDDEN in that Pizzaria, NOT just those of the five kids who went MISSING in the Pizzaria, dubbed the Missing childrens incident by the media. Five killed in the backroom, and one killed separately, but hidden in there with the rest anyways…
Eleanor seems to be preoccupied with the truths that aren’t well known, doesn’t she? Most serial killers in real life have a list of confirmed or heavily suspected kills, but most ALSO have a number of deaths that CAN’t be specifically linked back to them, because they don’t always kill in the same way. Except for in the case of neat and concise storytelling, why would William be any different?
And, all this considered, the fact that Cassidy is depicted with four confirmed MCI kids in the novel trilogy, that also gives credence to the theory that she is NOT the vengeful spirit, because if the previous theory is true, the vengeful spirit is NOT one of the official five MCI victims either!

And not only that, but the evidence against Cassidy doesn’t end there:

Because I'n Fnaf SB, we get to play a series of Princess Quest minigames that not only take through much of the old game lore, but directly change the outcome of the game and lead to the Vanny ending. It's been generally agreed upon that that these minigames follow the spirit of Cassidy, as she, now permanently latched onto Willaims soul just like Andrew was latched on to Afton in the books, is revived along with him in Glitchtrap and sets off to destroy him once and for all. And if we beat these minigames... she succeeds, and the now glitchtrap free vanny lays down her mask and helps Gregory out of the pizzaplex.
It all just works too well. Heck, we even got confirmation that we were playing as Cassidy from the game files... Or so we thought, as soon after the filename was discovered... in a notable first for the fnaf franchise, it was actually REMOVED.
But... Why? And why would this be the first time a filename has been changed like that in the series? Was it because it gave away the mystery? Well, the secret had already been out, fnaf has a history of giving hints or even reveals in the filenames just like that.. and on top of THAT, the fact the were playing as Cassidy was ALREADY abundantly obvious in the minigames. Because if the fact that we play as a little Golden Girl fighting Dark bunny creatures with Old man consequences in the background wasn't obvious enough I don't know what is.
Well, despite all the confusion around it, I’m gonna put in my controversial two cents and say that I really think the only plausible reason why this filename would be removed... is if it was WRONG… (”*HEAR ME OUT” disclaimer) Hold on everyone, this explanation is gonna need a LOT of background context, but trust me, it leads into something critical for this whole theory:
Because you gotta remember... Steel Wool is a full, professional game studio with many employees going in and out of the company on a regular basis. It is standard protocol for studios not to share sensitive story information with ALL of their employees, if they did, it would become leak-topia. They usually only share it with the ones that NEED to know it, and even then, fnaf lore is extremely intricate and difficult to understand, and even some of the game's lead producers seemed to be confused with the lore at times (show ray macaffy quote, with emphasis on "the fans will understand").
For all we know, the filename "cassidy" was just added in by a lower rank programmer or graphic designer who was confused about what the minigame meant or just didn't know exactly what he was talking about. And... this kind of thing isn't uncommon in the gaming industry. You know the famous "Project Dread" teaser in Metroid Prime 3? Well, that wasn't sanctioned by Nintendo.. at all. That was added in by a lower level employee who had been reading too many internet rumors about a leaked fifth metroid game called Dread,and while the game was real,the rumors were not, and it was one that the studio he worked at had never even HEARD of before. And that's why nothing about the so-called "teaser" ended up being correct in the end. It was just tiny bit of misinformation added in by a guy who thought he knew what he was talking about, one that even a company as big and draconian as Nintendo was with quality assurance accidentally let slip though the cracks.

So, I think that's exactly what happened with Cassidy here. With the sprite name being retconned out for the simple reason that… it was misleading.. In the first place.

But if this character we play as in Princess Quest isn't Cassidy, then the real question is... who is it??
And that leads us to what I think is.. Almost the smoking gun of my theory:

In Security Breach, in the basement we see this mural of what is obviously Cassidy painted on the wall. This mural shows her in a hospital bed with the same checkered patterns as the fnaf 4 bed, and the fnaf 4 lamp and IV next to her. What's notable about this image, apart from the fact that it has zero connection to the other murals on the walls, is that it has a big red X over the top, along with a big slash across the image.
The image is extremely confusing for a number of reasons, and it’s EXACT meaning has not yet been deciphered, but the premise of the message it’s putting across, is pretty dang clear: "not cassidy…" or “cassidy is not..” but.. the question is: "Cassidy is not" what? Is it saying she is NOT the bite victim? Well, duh, she isn't. Is it that she is NOT the person having the nightmares in fnaf 4? It would seem like it... Except that, not once in the eight years have I been in the community have I even heard someone even INFER that she was the one we play in fnaf 4. If Scott is trying to tell us something about the lore, why would he try to correct us about something nobody ever really thought in the first place? I mean, you might as well tell us that Henry never possessed ballora, because the community would get the same amount of value out of that statement as well (0+0, is still 0)
No, I think the message here is meant to read out more like "Cassidy is not” and then “something related to fnaf 4" or, perhaps more accurately “Cassidy is not related to” and something about the Crying Child, since this is his bed and surroundings. Sure, it could also be “Cassidy is not related to some aspect of Micheal” since the fnaf 4 gameplay is probably about him having nightmares about what he put his brother through, I still think it is about the crying child, since cassidy.. Is in a hospital bed. NOT the regular sleeping bed that Micheal dreams is in the room in the fnaf 4 gameplay.

So, in a nutshell, if all the supposed references to Cassidy in the classic games are vague enough to fit a different spirit,
and if the person we play as in Princess quest, who fights against William and takes advice from Old Man Consequences isn't Cassidy, and last but not least: the message of "not cassidy" in regards to some aspect of fnaf 4 or the Crying child is directly displayed in the game. I think that finally, we have enough evidence to tilt the scales, and to say that the vengeful spirit, isn't Cassidy. And who else could fit the mold for that role anywhere near as good, as Andrew…
But alright alright, I'm sure you all dislike it as much as I do, because IF that theory is true, then, just who the heck IS Cassidy?? Why is she mentioned in the logbook? And.. Just what purpose does she serve in the fnaf story anyways?... And the answer to that.. is we just don't know.. Obviously, she has to be important, right? Not only because of her mention in the novels and the logbook, but because Scott once intended to write an ENTIRE FNAF MOVIE ABOUT HER. Yup, a couple of years back, while discussing old screenplays for the fnaf movie, Scott revealed that the movie was going to be about her at one point, but that he scrapped the idea because it was, quote "too complicated, taking place over may time periods and locations throughout the franchise's history".
But to me, that... only makes things more confusing, as Cassidy's perceived story in the games was.. rather simple. She is a girl who gets killed by William early on, and she only really does anything besides cameos as Golden freddy when William gets burned in UCN.
So, what did Cassidy do in the lore that was too long and complicated to portray in a movie? Was it a movie about Golden Freddy, and the entire fnaf sage from his point of view?
Bit.. if it was... then why didn't Scott say that it was a Golden Freddy movie?
he had no problem saying that other screenplays were about the puppet and the funtimes, so he wasn't afraid of letting people down with his scrapped ideas
And on top of THAT, when this screenplay idea was revealed, the community wasn't even sure if a character named Cassidy was even CANON, much LESS that she was the Vengeful spirit we saw in UCN. So to me... this is only further evidence that we've probably been mistaken about Cassidy's role and character... since the beginning
And.. Honestly, as much as I hated the idea of Cassidy not being the vengeful spirit, I really wanted to leave my theory there. I had all the evidence against Cassidy right in front of me, and.. I had even managed to find some more evidence on my OWN.. But.. there were some major details in the games and books… I just couldn’t reconcile with myself..

-EVIDENCE AGAINST THIS THEORY:


In my second to last theory, I stated that, based on the evidence from the latest books, that I think ALL of Tales from the Pizzaplex is canon to the game canon (which is terrible), and that it seems like at least SOME of Fazbear Frights is too (although “some” is already too much”) However, for now I’m gonna be optimistic until we get out smoking gun for or against that theory and say that the Frights series is probably just loosely related to the game canon. Probably being fictionalized stories based on real events in the fnaf canon, like the fnaf games we see in help wanted that were made by steve, a guy who didn’t even really know much about Freddy Fazbears Pizza. So, maybe the Stichwraith stories are canonically just embellishments of the Golden Freddy story. Maybe Andrew was real, but they turned the crying child into jake and put them both in the crazy contraption that is the stitchwraith just to make the story more interesting.

But then… even if my “solution” for the last problem is true, there is still one more big problem here…

In Fnaf 6 and the ultimate guide, the controversial theory of Molten MCI is all but confirmed. Where the classic animatronics from Fnaf 1 were melted down and their remnant injected into Funtime freddy.
Silly, but not a problem with this theory right? However, the problem is that, the ultimate guide and Candy cadets stories say that FIVE animatronics were melted down into the one that became Funtime Freddy. So, that would leave us Freddy, Bonnie, Chica, Foxy and… Golden Freddy…
And.. we more evidence for this in fnaf 3, where there are FIVE ghosts in the follow me minigame, despite only four animatronics being visibly destroyed. And in UCN, we get this line from Orvil the Elephant:
"He tried to release you, he tried to release us, but I won't let that happen, I will keep you here, I will hold you here, no matter how many times they burn us."
And.. that’s important.. Because that implies that the vengeful spirit is actively burning in the fnaf 6 fire as WELL. And, who else could the spirit be in but inside Molten Freddy?
So, if Cassidy is a MCI kid, and Andrew is the Vengeful spirit inside Golden Freddy.. Then just where the heck is Cassidy in Follow me? Is she just off hanging out in the back with the crying child while all her friends deal with William or something? Wait a second, if there are two souls in Golden Freddy, then why ISN’t The crying child there? I get that he would be sympathetic to his dad, but if so, then why would he just let the other spirits torment his dad? Gosh that incredible set of minigames has been retconned to mush-

Now, as… regretful as I am to say it… there is SOME minor evidence for a “three spirit” golden Freddy, because in the stitchwraith stingers, it is shown that there is yet a THIRD presence inside the stitchwraith with Jake and Andrew. And.. whether this is Willaim Afton fused to Andrew’s soul, or eleanor causing more mischief again… isn’t EXACTLY clear… But regardless.. Any way you look at it, the stitchwraith has THREE spirits inside it… But.. even then, the “Cassidy isn’t affiliated with fnaf 4” message in SB would SEEM to contradict that, but… It’s at least a vague (but awful) possibility..


And honestly… the biggest problem we have here is that, with the way the modern fnaf lore has degraded, we can no longer judge theories on whether or not they make sense, or how well they fit the overall story. You know what? It DOESN’t make any sense for Andrew to be the Vengeful spirit, heck, it doesn’t even make sense for him to be in the game canon at all, he should just be a cassidy parallel just like Jake is a crying child parallel. But yet… We keep getting more evidence that Cassidy isn’t who we thought she was.. And, at current, no one else remotely fits the bill except Andrew. The unfortunate truth is, that ever since Help Wanted came out, we’ve been shown time and time again NOT to expect fnaf’s writing to be good, but rather, for it to really be BAD . And, as awful as making a random book character canon and having such a seemly important and well liked character such as cassidy thrown to the wayside and made pointless is,if one is to read just how poor the writing is in The Tales Books and SB timeline.. This.. just seems like a normal thing that Scott would do at this point…
Back in the early days of fnaf, reason... was one of the few things had to decipher the lore. Back then, with so little and such vague pieces, you kinda just had to do the most reasonable conjecture and run with that. And thankfully, we almost always got it right (show Scott fnaf 4 quote "it seems there was nothing I could hide!). Nowadays, however, the fnaf story has become more and more unglued. Now, we mostly have to throw reason to the side and see just see what absurd explanation from the books we can try and use to fill in each gap. Things have gotten SO crazy, in fact, that over the course of two out of nine games, fnaf went from a series legendary for its lore, to one that is infamous for it
Honestly I’m 40-60 on the whole thing…. Ok, more like 30-70. I think that Cassidy makes complete sense as the Vengeful spirit inside of Golden Freddy… but the ONLY concrete connection she has to ANY of those roles is the fact that she’s seems to be communicating with the crying child in the Logbook. And now that SB is hammering in that we got something majorly wrong about Cassidy and her role means that at least SOMETHING about our interpretation of her has to give..
And on the other hand, Andrew fits the bill of the Vengeful spirit even better than Cassidy does. We know he’s a boy, he has a direct connection to Golden Freddy, is murdered by William, and keeps him alive in a perpetual state of nightmares after the fnaf 6 fire. And unlike Cassidy, where all these things are conjecture, they are indisputable fact with Andrew. Andrew.. Makes for a better Cassidy, then Cassidy. Not only that, but he also would be a sixth kid, which would line up with the number of bodies we see in the 1985 location in into the pit, and he also just aligns far better as a parallel to Micheal Brooks, a sixth kid killed separately by william and stuffed into the Golden Freddy suit in the 1985 location in the Novel trilogy.

And.. worst of all I think… how do we know if any of the previous contradictions to Andrew have any good explanations.. Or they just bad writing? And ditto with the contradictions to Cassidy?
So again, right now I am.. Only a bit more certain about Andrew being the vengeful spirit in the games then I am Cassidy.
Andrew has the most direct evidence.. But makes the least sense. Cassidy Makes the most sense… but has the least direct evidence..
And again, my biggest fear here is that now that sense has been thrown out the window in the modern fnaf timeline, is that “sense” may not be justifiable evidence in any of these theories anymore.

Anyways, this is shycrow, signing off
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2023.03.20 15:47 Quantumarki For the people that believe glitchtrap is recreating Williams family: could Jeremy have been an early attempt at recreating Michael?

GGY = BV
Vanny = Elizabeth
Whatever split personality that Jeremy could have had if he didn’t off himself = Michael
Jeremy was glitchtraps first male apprentice, while micheal was Williams firstborn son
He also fits the orders of when he gained each apprentice even though it was kinda obvious. Jeremy, then Vanny, then GGY. Micheal, Elizabeth, then BV.
That’s about all I got, but I kinda fits the theory
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2023.03.20 03:08 TypeLX_ Some of the theories I started believing recently.

Some of the theories I started believing recently.
I actually wrote most of this post about a month ago, but this account didn't have enough karma to make a post until now. Give your thoughts or critiques, because I'm sure there will be some disagreements here. Most of these I didn't even believe until recently, but having taken a step back and looked at everything again, these answers seem to make most sense to me for the story.
  1. WillStuffed- I was a big arguer for it being the Puppet (games timeline only) but now I can agree William probably stuffed them in the suits. The Give Gifts Give Life minigame makes more sense to be a predecessor to FNAF3’s Happiest Day minigame, where the Puppet [attempts] to give the children peace.
  2. ShatterVictim - I’ll say it. I don’t think Bite Victim is just possessing Golden Freddy. I see no narrative or thematic reason for Golden Freddy to just randomly have two spirits, it comes completely out of nowhere and really adds nothing to the story. What I do believe however, is that (somehow) pieces of him are inside each of the original five animatronics. This is actually much cleaner than it might seem, because it actually creates good storytelling from FNAF2 onward.
  • Give Gifts Give Life in FNAF2 shows us the Puppet trying to cheer up the original spirits using giftboxes, before resorting to giving them life with their masks. Golden Freddy's spirit and his jumpscare appears right at the end; the point of this minigame was to show how none of them will find peace unless all five of them are together, making Golden Freddy problematic.
  • Happiest Day in FNAF3 shows us a successful version of GGGL. You can play that minigame on Night 1, but only Cassidy will be there. You can't complete it until all five kids get cake, are wearing their masks, and have been reunited.
  • FNAF4 and World then attempted to continue this narrative by answering a simple question: why? Why do they need to be together to be free? The answer to that is the Bite Victim, its his memories from 4 that the other five children are stuck inside in FNAF3, in FNAF World putting him back together is synonymous with bringing the missing children together by setting up Happiest Day.
  • Sister Location and FFPS take a literal approach to this theme of 'putting the pieces together,' by having William literally melt the robots together [hey, does this mean its William or Charlotte who said "I will put you back together"? Heh...)
  1. Timeline Order of the Deaths - Bite Victim -> Charlotte -> Elizabeth -> Missing Children -> The Rest
  • Bite Victim - Spring[?] of 1983 I don't think he's the catalyst for everything William has done but I still believe hes the first main death. Two of the reasons I think this is the case is because of my take on Midnight Motorist (lower down), and because of FNAF4's Halloween Update. I think the reason Scott is so adamant on the Halloween Update being non-canon is actually really simple: because BV can't die on Halloween. Why? Well...
  • Charlotte - ... because Charlotte dies on Halloween 1983. This is supported by the novels, the connections between Midnight Motorist and Curse of Dreadbear, etc. Something probably happened during "Fallfest 1983," and since it apparently can't be BV, then its probably Charlotte.
  • Elizabeth - June 1985 - Yeah this'll also be a controversial take. Remember the FNAF3 tapes? Phone Guy says the suits shouldn't be used because of an "unfortunate incident at the sister location involving multiple simultaneous springlock failures." Do you think that maybe... JUST MAYBE... the Springlock Suit from the sister location might be the same Springlock Suit from Sister Location? Shortly after that tape, Phone Guy has to warn employees not to bring customers into the safe room, and that somebody touched Spring Bonnie, and then subsequently they seal off the wall. That obviously alludes to ....
  • The Missing Children's Incident - June 26th, 1985 - Since the Springlock failure happened at Circus Baby's, it had to coincide with Elizabeth's death; and since this happens immediately before Phone Guy's tapes that allude to the MCI, then I think the MCI simply comes after Elizabeth's death.
    • I also like this order because each of these events have a corresponding "ironic parallel," all of which seem to happen in the exact opposite order: [Follow Me, Michael's Scooping, Henry's Trap, and Happiest Day]
  1. WillPlush - Since I believe BV died first, the Plush can't be Charlotte. I think it's Shadow Freddy / William; William being the one who said "I will put you back together." There's too many connections to William for me to just say "oh it was Charlotte who somehow became this child's plush for some reason"
  • William ends up pulling through with that, given he literally puts BV back together through MoltenMCI.
    • I know saying its William will be unpopular, but really everything we know about the Plush has some connection to William. Sister Location connects the Plush and the phrase "I will put you back together" to William; The Silver Eyes connects Happiest Day to William (even though that's a whole can of worms). William and Charlie are just dramatic foils of each other.
  • The Plush also seems to be pretty malevolent prior to Night 6, because it actively tells the BV that whatever he's afraid of about the animatronics is true, making him more afraid. Scott practically confirmed that whatever BV is afraid of was something he misunderstood, so the Plush is just making it worse for some reason, which is why I think it's Shadow Freddy.
    • Narratively, I think this is the best solution because Shadow Freddy is literally the final boss of FNAF4, he's the reason Mike has his nightmares; Shadow Freddy being prevalent in BV's story ties the nights back to the minigames in a compelling way. More on this topic...
  1. Shadow Freddy - Since I'm talking about it, he absolutely is Nightmare and the cause of Mike's nightmares. The Logbook sets this up too cleanly for this not to be the story Scott was trying to tell. The logbook introduces Mike, Cassidy, and BV. Cassidy asks BV about his own memories, like the plush and the telephone, and Mike makes a drawing alluding to FNAF4's nightmares.
Something that goes overlooked however is the random story prompt about Jeremy Fitzgerald getting followed home during FNAF2. Why is this in the logbook? Because it parallels what prompted Mike's nightmares; Shadow Freddy followed him home.
Does this mean Jeremy also had nightmares? YES WE SEE THEM IN FNAF2 THESE CUTSCENES ARE DREAMS.
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I do believe the Logbook is used by Mike in 2023 [not necessarily that it was made in 2023], because FNAF3 would be when Shadow Freddy has an opportunity to latch onto Michael [either during the main game or after the auction at the end]. FNAF3's last night was called "NIGHTMARE MODE" after all. At the very least, the logbook is after SL anyways. Cassidy and BV are probably speaking through the logbook because its their remnant keeping Mike alive; similar to how Carlton had to interact with Brooks' remnant in The Fourth Closet.
  • Cassidy and/or BV might also be somewhat responsible for these nightmares, and I think that parallels nicely with William in UCN, but I'm not so certain with that.
I also wanna say Lefty is based on Shadow Freddy, in universe. I think this should seem obvious just from design ques, but it also makes sense in story. In the Insanity Ending, Lefty's blueprint appears at the same time when Henry says "lured them all back", describing Shadow Freddy. Henry realized what William did, luring the children back to the same place where they died, so Henry decides to do the same thing in his master plan.
Henry lured everyone to the alleyway of FFPS because that's where his daughter died [This is the purpose of Security Puppet; its the same alleyway]. He even used Lefty, who resembles Shadow Freddy, for this plan to make sure his daughter also "returns." This is a cool story detail that I don't think anyone calls out.
  1. FredbearsFFPS - the FFPS pizzeria 100% has to be where Charlotte died, because this is a necessary plot point for the game. Therefore, FFPS also has to either be the first Freddy's, or Fredbear's. I'm leaning towards Fredbear's because that's where she died in the novels, and because of Security Breach.
  2. Midnight Motorist - Alright. Here's my take on Midnight Motorist [credit to Sire Squawks]
  • Orange Guy is William.
  • "Later that Night" does refer to Charlotte's death.
  • Michael is the runaway kid, as BV already died months ago.
  • Henry is the couch guy.
    • This is actually the most important part because if Henry isn't the couch guy, then this minigame is literally pointless.
    • Fruity Maze draws attention to Follow Me which is relevant to the Insanity Ending, and gives a face to the name Susie in the Completion Ending. Security Puppet draws attention to the alley, which is crucial to Henry's plan as described in the Insanity and True Ending, and indicates the Puppet is important. Candy Cadet alludes to MoltenMCI which is relevant to both the Insanity and True Ending.
    • Now... what does Midnight Motorist have to do with ANYTHING in Pizzeria Simulator? Sure, it connects to Security Puppet, but then it tells us nothing of value relevant to FFPS... unless this serves to tell us why Henry wasn't at the restaurant to save his daughter, as he describes in the True Ending.
    • This logic is also why I don't believe AndrewMM anymore, because for the plot of FFPS, introducing another kid who only becomes relevant in UCN just makes it disconnected.
  • This is just tangentially-related, but can I also say that there is absolutely no reason for the Security Puppet to have faceplates, unless Scott is trying to tell us that William made the Puppet. Why would he do that only to kill her a few months later? I don't know, but Scott is hinting to it anyways. "I am the fearful reflection of what you have created," I guess...
  1. StitchlineGames - I still believe StitchlineGames, but I know that's gonna start an argument if I try to bring up any evidence... so why not follow it up with something better-
  2. CassidyTOYSNHK - I also believe Cassidy is TOYSNHK. How do I believe this and StitchlineGames? What about Andrew?
  • Well, I'm like half-convinced Andrew wasn't even real. He was Eleanor all along. Oh yeah totally, the stingers establish that Andrew caused everything, and then makes him vanish, followed by Eleanor showing up and the story just deciding to change its mind and say "It Was Eleanor All Along actually!!!"
  • When Jake and Andrew first talk, Andrew can't see so he asks Jake where they're at, Jake says they're in a dump truck and that there's junk everywhere, Andrew just goes "Figures. Story of my life" and Jake is like "why?" and then Andrew ignores him and NEVER ELABORATES ON THAT. Hmm, if only there was a character with a connection to junkyards...
  • Remember that one line when Jake said "Andrew's voice reminds me of a kid I used to know in school" HE PROBABLY WAS THAT RANDOM KID WHO KNOWS.
Okay. With that out my system...
  1. Security Breach's characters
  • Alright, I'm not as certain with everything from this point onward, but I at least like this narrative.
  • Afton does probably still want to rebuild his family in some twisted way, I'm pretty sure of this. Maybe as brainwashed people, as robots, whatever.
  • We now know for certain due to GGY that not only is Vanessa under Afton's reign, but so was Gregory.
  • Afton wanted both of them to mimic act as his family. Vanessa takes the role of Elizabeth ("Bill right? Your father's name was Bill?"), Gregory takes the role of BV ("The wizard's most favorite apprentice")
  • Why isn't there a human Michael stand-in? Tbh... because he's probably still alive and wrote the code on the wall.
    • Is it not odd that the room that was supposed to reveal the truth about Vanessa and Gregory also has a code describing what Gregory must do in SB; and that Scott randomly decided to make it Michael's room from Sister Location? Seems peculiar to me.
  • Why isn't there a human Ms. Afton stand-in? Tbh... okay I'll give you that one I don't know.
  • I think FuhNaff is right in connecting Gregory's possession to BB World.
  • As to why Gregory isn't possessed during SB, my guess is whoever wrote the wall code freed/reprogrammed him to "save those with soul." (depending on if you think Gregory is a robot which, idk could probably go either way at this point)
  • No idea who Glamrock Freddy or the Blob are... and at this point who knows what the deal is with Glitchtrap/Mimic.
That's all that I can think of, but let me know if I am wrong should elaborate on anything
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2023.03.19 18:36 TraditionMedical2514 What if William Afton/Springtrap/purple guy/Glitchtrap got transported into DDLC?

I'll let you guys imagine a funny conversation between him and the girls, and maybe even the player if this is Glitchtrap, how would they react to his behavior?
His personality is still intact but he doesn't want to kill children- just like Monika and Glitchtrap, he only wants to get out of there to do it it in real life lol, I think he'd keep bombarding the cast with his one-liners and crazy life and death (and life) stories.
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2023.03.19 10:38 Jamieb696 Tombstone And Dheusta: Fnaf Glitchtrap Song Video & Five Nights At Freddy'S 1 Song [ravedj]

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2023.03.19 03:21 Walalogan Glitchtrap is trying to take over both Vanessa AND Gregory

In Fuhnaffs newest video he explains how the BB mini games relate to Scott's "forgotten" 'Into Madness' game. And that Glitchtrap is inside Security Breachs BB arcade game in a similar way to the Princess Quest arcade games where you have to free Vanessa. John tells us that the code name for the BB arcade game is 'Scott Into Madness'. As John explains in the video, we are playing Scott's 'Into Madness' games (Help Wanted, AR, Security Breach). John then explains how in the story from Tales from the Pizzaplex titled GGY, Gregory has the highest score on most of the arcade games in the pizzaplex because he spends so much time there and is good at the games. This is how Gregory would have been able to 'beat' the BB minigame. And when he completes it Glitchtrap would gain control over him somehow. This would completely explain the post-it note room in Security Breach. As the character encyclopedia tells us that Gregory is in fact human. But, like Vanessa he can switch 'personalitys'. This explains why so many odd things are written there. I believe that when Glitchtrap takes over Gregory's mind/body he goes to this room and writes all his thoughts or memories. This is Glitchtrap writing down binary, because he was code on some old circuit boards. There's presents and balloons from his sons birthday. This also would explain why the Afton family is rebuilt inside that room, it's Afton coming into control of Gregory and regaining his consciousness, his memories. This could also explain why when Vanny and Gregory get close to each other Gregory's vision gets staticy. This is because Afton is inside of both Vanny and Gregory and this somehow causes an interference.
https://youtu.be/Fleb5ruqerg
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2023.03.18 23:12 Jake52212 So that GGY, huh...

Spoilers for the most recent FNAF book
So I just needed to talk about this after watching Fuhnaff's theory on GGY and then reading it myself...I legitimately have no idea if Gregory is being mind controlled by Glitchtrap, if he's a robot. But there's something there. No matter what Gregory HAS to be Patient 46. It's all but confirmed now. And I fully believe that the FNAF timeline video is gonna have to have had some rewrites once the team read/reads this story, unless it was similar to something they already had in the video. But, I gotta say, it really is crazy that one story in a semi-anthology book series can solve so many issues with the lore.
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2023.03.18 20:53 SylverAndGold888 My Ender 3 is utterly broken and severely out of order

Dear people of reddit,
it seems that my Creality Ender 3 has decided to stop printing for a long time. Here is what is happening:
Upon uploading the GCODE file from my laptop to octopi, the print starts out well for one or two laers, until they start offsetting: The Y axis starts glitching. Then, a blob starts to form and it goes to the point where the litteral bed flies across the entire room like it's possesed by Glitchtrap or something. The blob is well over 5x5 cm at worst and infiltrates the entire extruder.
The utter irony is that the blob in the extruder melted the plastic around it, making it fall out, and there's PLA everywhere inside of it. It is legitimately frightening and scares the ever living frick out of me. Someone could pass by and get shot at with a flying bed. Help me before this demon of a printer kills someone or destroys itself. PLEASE.
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